tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post7513847843453676255..comments2019-02-09T20:33:04.935-05:00Comments on APUSH 2: Pay for PlayLord Gehmhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12361275468009503613noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-35213480280470980852013-12-16T19:36:25.251-05:002013-12-16T19:36:25.251-05:00I agree; the athletes are already being paid in te...I agree; the athletes are already being paid in terms of an education, tuition, and all that. And also, students are involved in sports are involved by choice.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10586204232351805616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-23975088307834189942013-12-14T18:59:24.322-05:002013-12-14T18:59:24.322-05:00I simply brought up the example of medical student...I simply brought up the example of medical students because Kush was saying that the only students who brought money into a school were the athletes. I am in no way in favor for medical students to be paid. I just used it as an example.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356246549333120390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-80261599896884567812013-12-14T15:33:14.432-05:002013-12-14T15:33:14.432-05:00It is just nonsense to think either a medical stud...It is just nonsense to think either a medical student or college athlete should be paid. Like really, are we going to start paying high school students for taking AP classes now? This is why it is called a pre-professional stage. It is also unnecessary. What is the use of using money if the incentive isn't needed? People will still want to go to medical school and play college sports. There is absolutely no need.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-55144069620059705282013-12-14T15:29:39.744-05:002013-12-14T15:29:39.744-05:00Also, it kind of takes the love and drive out of t...Also, it kind of takes the love and drive out of the game. This concept is often shown in the sport of basketball. Many people prefer to watch college basketball over the NBA because the players often come off as if they don't even care since they get paid regardless. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-42524782708422007272013-12-14T15:27:33.180-05:002013-12-14T15:27:33.180-05:00I just think paying them is entirely unnecessary. ...I just think paying them is entirely unnecessary. I think contemporary college football players are still motivated by winning the game and earning opportunities to play at the next level. I read an article in USA Today which stated " the University of Wisconsin generated $103,803,040 through its athletic programs during the 2011-2012 academic year – making UW the 11th highest grossing athletic program in the country. During that same time period, Wisconsin spent a total of $102,275,206 on expenses to athletic programs including coaches’ salaries, scholarships and facilities." This is approximately 98% of its revenue. Aside from the point that paying athletes is uncalled for,there isn't even enough money to do so as people think.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-75163622667646231362013-12-14T15:21:22.415-05:002013-12-14T15:21:22.415-05:00As stated in the original question, it is obvious ...As stated in the original question, it is obvious that justifying paying college athletes a salary is quite hard to do. First off, it sends a bad message to young and high school athletes. The message College Sports would be sending is "its ok to hold out for more money and it's ok to only pay some athletes but not others." Secondly, it is not what college is about. College athletes are not professionals and therefore should not be paid since the purpose of going to college is to get the training so you can use it later. It is also almost impossible to think of an adequate payment plan; is it based off talent, statistics, position, division,or sport type? And most importantly, college athletes are already paid. They get a huge scholarship from their university which practically accounts for a"salary."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-18305331744691034542013-12-14T00:24:49.318-05:002013-12-14T00:24:49.318-05:00Melissa, you are talking about stressful? Well Cad...Melissa, you are talking about stressful? Well Cade Foster, the embattled kicker for the University of Alabama missed a field goal for his team against Auburn. Guess what he received from fans all over the United States? Death threats. Also when did I ever say medical student don't deserve to be paid? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01342201748538140491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-59296030909090416792013-12-14T00:03:47.043-05:002013-12-14T00:03:47.043-05:00Kush; some students such as those in medical progr...Kush; some students such as those in medical programs do much more to help others, by working in university hospitals. They work harder than those athletes, deal with more stressful situations than passing around a ball on a field, and they take much more rigorous courses than any athlete could be taking. Are you honestly going to say that a student who goes to school simply to pass a ball around on a court or field deserves to get paid, while a medical student taking the most difficult and demanding course of study, AND who works in the university hospital, during all hours and helping the sick and injured doesn't deserve to get paid??? These students are the brainy number 1's, and they DO do things to bring in revenue to a school, since as we all know, health care is one of the top businesses in the world.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356246549333120390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-28115152922218405942013-12-13T23:56:59.279-05:002013-12-13T23:56:59.279-05:00"Do students get paid for acing classes? Does..."Do students get paid for acing classes? Does the number 1 student get a salary?" Well is this student generating and bring millions of dollars in revenue into the schools program? No. I understand they are working to receive these excellent grades but are they breaking legs, ankles, arms, collarbones and etc? Putting their bodies on the line every game? Didn't think so. If you and the program you are playing for makes so much why not get a share of it due to the fact you help earn that money. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01342201748538140491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-81975967043285980022013-12-13T23:55:19.998-05:002013-12-13T23:55:19.998-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01342201748538140491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-48372235778918134282013-12-13T23:50:23.837-05:002013-12-13T23:50:23.837-05:00We live in a capitalistic world, so as i mentioned...We live in a capitalistic world, so as i mentioned in my original post Not everything is equal, not everything is fair.in our world. IF you are the reason your college program is making millions and millions of dollars you deserve a portion of the money due to your hard work. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01342201748538140491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-88089556024896902592013-12-13T23:47:38.402-05:002013-12-13T23:47:38.402-05:00I too agree with your statement that "Receivi...I too agree with your statement that "Receiving money would only depreciate their charisma", because as chriz said, athletes will not strive to do better, if they were paid, and improvement will not occur. College athletes yet have some to learn. Also, athletes will be drawn to colleges that will pay them money in return of their performance instead when it really should be based moslty on academics. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14629908370895197091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-42144882669639656142013-12-13T23:45:36.662-05:002013-12-13T23:45:36.662-05:00I knew someone was going to point out the fact the...I knew someone was going to point out the fact these athletes are amateurs, which is so far from the truth. If they were amateurs, they would not be filling up 100,000-seat stadiums, having their faces in sports illustrated magazines, Characters in video games, and massive recruiting budgets. Also if they were amateurs they wouldn’t have their own special dining halls, dorms and be escorted to their classes by security guards. These student athletes are celebrities on campus. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01342201748538140491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-13170999770651878972013-12-13T23:40:11.389-05:002013-12-13T23:40:11.389-05:00Jen, I agree with you for the most part, but most ...Jen, I agree with you for the most part, but most athletes are rewarded. Attaining edcuation with full rides with no worries of having debt, is compesation for their work. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14629908370895197091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-940954959485252082013-12-13T23:39:37.281-05:002013-12-13T23:39:37.281-05:00Second Part to the Blog:
Everyone says how can y...Second Part to the Blog: <br /><br />Everyone says how can you come up with the right number to pay these athletes and what if other sports teams can generate as much money as other programs? Michael Wilbon, a sports analyst makes a great point on how you can fix the problem. “I wouldn't be the slightest bit interested in distributing the funds equitably or even paying every college athlete. I'm interested in seeing the people who produce the revenue share a teeny, tiny slice of it. That's right, football and men's basketball players get paid; lacrosse, field hockey, softball, baseball, soccer players get nothing. You know what that's called? Capitalism. Not everything is equal, not everything is fair.” –Wilbon <br />We do not live in a socialism world. If you have worked so hard and are extremely talented that generate so much money, you deserve to get compensated for your play. COLLEGE ATHELETE SHOULD BE PAID. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01342201748538140491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-24322004180150340752013-12-13T23:39:11.686-05:002013-12-13T23:39:11.686-05:00JD I loved your post. "What people need to re...JD I loved your post. "What people need to remember is that these kids aren't professionals." I agree...Giving salaries to college football would be like having another football league. It'd be like the amateur NFL. Most college teams have like one star player so how would the pay even be distributed??? The kids who are EXTREMELY talented do go on to successful careers in the NFL. So why do they need even more money in college??? Does what I'm saying make sense?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10257768820299697918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-80937075864102627492013-12-13T23:39:04.636-05:002013-12-13T23:39:04.636-05:00Without a doubt, I believe College Athletes should...Without a doubt, I believe College Athletes should be paid. Yes, many of these athletes are receiving a free education, which is one of the greatest advantages to being a student-athlete is that you get money to go to school. When I say College Athletes should be paid, I do not mean in sense of like professional athletes such as Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, and etc. <br /><br />Why College Athletes should be paid? Let’s look at the numerical facts. <br />1. The NCAA and CBS signed a $10.8 billion television agreement over 14 years. Also the NCAA is considered a non-profit company. This means the NCAA and CBS/Turner Sports for March Madness between 2011 and 2024. The NCAA will be making almost $11 billion for three weekends of television per year. Also another deal was in placed with ESPN, a new four-year deal with ESPN that pays the BCS $500 million. If a portion of the money generated from these deals was set aside to provide a stipend to college athletes, how can you argue against paying the people who make the revenue possible in the first place?<br /><br />2. Many of the players at the collegiate level come from rough and struggling upbringings. Many of them played sports because they thought that it was their one way out of a life of struggle. Many of these student athletes have struggled financially for their entire lives. To place them in a situation where they do the majority of the work and everyone else around them gets benefits and gets paid, then expect them to not accept benefits sounds bizarre. Many athletes then resort to selling drugs and illegal substances to make money and support their parents and siblings. A Louisiana native, D.J. Fluker grew to be one of the best offensive tackles in the SEC. But before he won multiple National Championships at Alabama, Fluker was living out of a car for weeks with his mother and siblings after they lost their home in Hurricane Katrina. If he was compensated for his play maybe he wouldn’t have to live out a car and can afford to provide a roof over his family’s head. <br /><br />3. Payment to these athletes can decrease media scandals and allegations. When athletes do try to make money on the side, they and their programs get punished by the NCAA. The University of Georgia’s A.J. Green was suspended for four games in 2010 for selling his used game jersey to make extra cash. Last year, the Ohio State Buckeyes went undefeated. They put up a perfect 12-0 season under a brand new coach. But they were banned from any post-season games because previously, numerous players traded memorabilia in exchange for money. If you want to read more about this here is a link. <br />(Read more http://www.sportsnetworker.com/2013/10/03/college-athletes-should-get-paid-heres-why/)<br /><br />4. The NCAA generates millions and millions of dollars of college athletes whether it is advertising their jerseys numbers, video games, and tickets selling. When the NCAA comes out with their video games with EA Sports, they use all the statistics from these athletes and factual information about their lives(where they grew up, how tall they are, how much they weigh, and etc) the only thing they do not use is their name so the athletes do not have to be compensated. This translates into let’s say you do all the hard work but you get nothing in return. <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01342201748538140491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-91306412842625415852013-12-13T23:35:33.933-05:002013-12-13T23:35:33.933-05:00I too like hwo you brought up ""Do stude...I too like hwo you brought up ""Do students get paid for acing classes?" If athlets can get paid for doing well, then why can't students who get exceptional grades, get paid? Justin, I also agree that many students are stuck with large amounts of debt, and sport athletes are the ones debt free, with no worries. Like i said before their scolarship is good enough compensation for their exceptional performance.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14629908370895197091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-2348479093670060722013-12-13T23:33:43.973-05:002013-12-13T23:33:43.973-05:00Melissa, I agree. You brought up points that I did...Melissa, I agree. You brought up points that I didn’t include in my original post. The point you made about how students with relatives who were alumnii at colleges is accurate. They have many more oppurtunites than those who do not have connections. So why would a college athlete need more benefits? A huge salary in addition to connections would make other students feel inferior. SOCIAL EQUALITY FOR ALL!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10257768820299697918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-14934424832948052552013-12-13T23:33:02.869-05:002013-12-13T23:33:02.869-05:00Nick you make a good point. The college draft woul...Nick you make a good point. The college draft would become just like the NFL draft. The students would only go to schools based on pay check. This system would probably become corrupt too. Students would take bribes from coaches to attend their schools. This can potentionally become a big mess. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10257768820299697918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-34537614546157733842013-12-13T23:25:57.397-05:002013-12-13T23:25:57.397-05:00Though I commend college athletics on their dedica...Though I commend college athletics on their dedication, and hard work to strive to do their best, I do not think they should receive money in return. They have yet, to learn so much. Also if money distrusted in return of playing well, how much money will be given to each individual athletes? Sports teams are like family, in which too much competition should not arise, because if they does occur, clashing may occur during the game. College sports should only focus on sportsmanship and the enjoyment of playing the sport. Discrimination also comes into play, because it is unjust those sports that do not have the money to pay their athletes. Also, many students need to money to attain a higher education, whether it is loans, or any other source. But, college athletes usually have a full ride to college, debt free! I think a scholarship is a good enough compensation for their hard efforts. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14629908370895197091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-38797334768590564742013-12-13T23:12:31.375-05:002013-12-13T23:12:31.375-05:00Since i don't believe anyone else chose that c...Since i don't believe anyone else chose that college athletes should be paid, i am inclined to agree with you B! You make a good point though. College athletes aren't represented in video games because they would have to be compensated through contract. But in reality what's the big deal. They are already being paid or given so much money in respect to their education. Why do they need it in their wallets?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15006078339053563202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-85893967585995090382013-12-13T23:08:41.336-05:002013-12-13T23:08:41.336-05:00You said that college sports would turn into a bus...You said that college sports would turn into a business, but the way I see it is that it already is a business. We have the NCAA who uses college athletes to make money off of, and in return the athletes get benefits such as scholarships and a chance to be discovered by the big people such as the NFL. Seems like a fair trade to me, and if we start paying the college athletes then it would complicate the system.Bishoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01840646296833972134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-72647857876974560252013-12-13T23:07:02.528-05:002013-12-13T23:07:02.528-05:00"Also, Ivy League schools will make a killing..."Also, Ivy League schools will make a killing, and dominate the league forever, because they will have the most money to spend on players. While this is already an issue..." This isn't an issue as much as you make it seem; however it will Definitely become one with the salaries considering ivy leagues amount of money to distribute to athletes. As off right now, however, Florida State Universities Football team the Seminals are undefeated heading into a national championship. However, this school doesn't even rank top 20 in schools that make revenue from sports. So Ivy leagues don't rule the sports as off right now. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15006078339053563202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3937950922090091959.post-50403501113976821022013-12-13T23:04:03.759-05:002013-12-13T23:04:03.759-05:00Many college athletes, especially big name schools...Many college athletes, especially big name schools, go through college nearly expense free. They are supplies with food already along with transportation and are most likely assisted if not payed for their board. So in addition to this them wanting salaries is absurd. Colleges don't need to pay their athletes any more then they do. After all, they receive enough already.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15006078339053563202noreply@blogger.com